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August 18th, 2004, 04:34 AM
Piña

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Originally posted by LanDroid:
Whispering to Pina: Trav frequently posts under GAE's moniker, it's usually easy to tell which is which when you keep that in mind...

I would never have considered that. I'm glad to hear it though as I was starting to think she?d had a brain aneurysm or something.

As to the protest stuff. I agree with you 100%. Disrupting the convention itself would be not just wrong but counterproductive. I actually hadn?t thought in terms of sabotaging the event inside the convention center itself but was thinking of protests in the city outside of the convention venue itself.

I?m thinking that it?s going to get very interesting in Nooo Yawk city in just a few weeks. I?m really scared that it might turn into violence ala Chicago in ?68. Hopefully I?m being way too paranoid but the turmoil of those years radically changed my life and I know just how quickly a protest can turn into a mob and just how quickly the cops can get out of control as well.
August 18th, 2004, 12:38 PM
jumper69

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Yesterday, a small group of police officers were reminded of the limitations they face when they stood outside the college waiting for Mr. Bloomberg to arrive, and handed out leaflets while blocking the entrance.

The right to protest peacefully is constitutionally protected. Blocking the entrance to a public building is not.
August 18th, 2004, 06:26 PM
Piña

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Originally posted by Jumper69:
The right to protest peacefully is constitutionally protected. Blocking the entrance to a public building is not.

And the solution is to require that they not block the entrance, not to herd them off to some sort of free speech cage. I suppose you would be OK with them shooting them. It would unblock the entrance so it must be right.

Our rights are being compromised just a little bit at a time. Again and again and again . . .
August 18th, 2004, 06:30 PM
jumper69

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And the solution is to require that they not block the entrance, not to herd them off to some sort of free speech cage. I suppose you would be OK with them shooting them. It would unblock the entrance so it must be right.
Our rights are being compromised just a little bit at a time. Again and again and again . . .

Please don't put words in my mouth. I simply stated that they can protest. They can't block an entrance. The police protestors were wrong the second they refused to obey the lawful order to move away from the doorway.

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After being asked to move several times, the leader of the group, Walter Liddy, was told he would be arrested if he did not move to a penned-in area near the school.

After being asked to move several times......hmmm!

Seems like the authorities tried to handle this civily. As for penned in area, police set up areas for civil protest all the time.

[ August 18, 2004 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Jumper69 ]
August 18th, 2004, 07:00 PM
gae

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I suppose you would be OK with them shooting them.

Yep. That's what happens to vermin.
August 18th, 2004, 10:32 PM
Lew

I concur with Jumper in that I thought back to when I was at UC during the first Gulf War. There were protests left and right, and I didn't have a problem with that, but they would block the bridge, and other public walkways, and I DID have a problem with that. When I'm paying all this tuition to go to school, it goes without saying I need (and want) to get to class. If you want to protest in an open space that's fine. But if you block Big Daddy LewMan as he head to class, then....I guess...it's on....
August 19th, 2004, 12:53 AM
gaeisanasshat

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August 19th, 2004, 09:44 AM
LanDroid

Congrats on the new board, HEHEHEEEEEEEEEEEE! But I think this thread needs to stay here.

I may be talking out of my asshat whatever that is, didn't see photos or video, but I think the free speech "cages" were at the Democratic convention. There will be WAY too many protestors at the Republican convention for "cages". I hope they behave themselves - Repubs will make hay out of any Seattle style protests requiring tear gas, etc. Don't even want to think about another '68 convention fiasco: Bush wins easily.

[ August 19, 2004 06:49 AM: Message edited by: LanDroid ]

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